{"id":2074,"date":"2024-06-17T07:41:45","date_gmt":"2024-06-17T07:41:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/staging-1739253107.somandsmissionen.dk\/?p=2074"},"modified":"2025-06-04T08:54:06","modified_gmt":"2025-06-04T08:54:06","slug":"what-people-dont-talk-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/en\/2024\/06\/17\/what-people-dont-talk-about\/","title":{"rendered":"What men don't talk about"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br><strong>Fiks i f\u00e6llesskab<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Af Hanne Baltzer<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De fleste kvinder form\u00e5r at tale om, hvordan de har det. Og de har ofte flere at betro sig til, fordi de har tilegnet sig mange sociale kompetencer. M\u00e6nd har sv\u00e6rere ved at s\u00e6tte ord p\u00e5 det sv\u00e6re. De har l\u00e6rt at skubbe f\u00f8lelser til side, men det kan give mistrivsel, psykiske problemer og isolation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201dDet er afg\u00f8rende, at man har nogen at betro sig til. Vi har data nok p\u00e5, at nogle m\u00e6nd slet ikke trives psykisk. De glider typisk af med en afv\u00e6bnende bem\u00e6rkning, hvis man sp\u00f8rger til dem eller de lukker ned, fordi de ikke kan s\u00e6tte ord p\u00e5 svaret, og s\u00e5 er den spinkle fortrolighed slut. De er meget s\u00e5rbare,\u201d siger\u00a0Svend Aage Madsen. Han er forskningsleder og psykolog p\u00e5 Rigshospitalet i K\u00f8benhavn og formand for Forum for M\u00e6nds Sundhed.\u00a0Organisationen arbejder for at s\u00e6tte fokus p\u00e5 og forbedre m\u00e6nds fysiske og psykiske sundhed.<style>\/*! elementor - v3.23.0 - 05-08-2024 *\/&amp;lt;br \/>&lt;br>.elementor-widget-image{text-align:center}.elementor-widget-image a{display:inline-block}.elementor-widget-image a img[src$=\".svg\"]{width:48px}.elementor-widget-image img{vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block}<\/style><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2079\" srcset=\"https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/somandsmissionen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/what-men-never-talk.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kortere levetid<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En ny dansk unders\u00f8gelse fra Forum for M\u00e6nds Sundhed, som Svend Aage Madsen er leder p\u00e5, viser, at hver femte mand sj\u00e6ldent eller aldrig har nogen at tale fortroligt med. Konsekvensen er kortere levetid, fordi alle har brug for nogen, der elsker en og g\u00e5r op i, hvordan man har det.<br>Selv om unders\u00f8gelsen er lavet blandt danske m\u00e6nd, er den alligevel relevant for andre. Fra unders\u00f8gelser blandt s\u00f8m\u00e6nd ved vi, at mange fremh\u00e6ver ensomhed som et livsvilk\u00e5r til s\u00f8s.&nbsp;Fysisk er man begr\u00e6nset af skibets rammer, og psykisk af en m\u00e5ske sporadisk kontakt med omverdenen p\u00e5 grund af skiftene online-muligheder og forholdsvis f\u00e5 kolleger, man ikke har meget til f\u00e6lles med.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Psyken er ukendt land<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Svend Aage Madsen m\u00f8der via sit arbejde flere og flere m\u00e6nd, der k\u00e6mper med ensomhed. Ofte sti&nbsp;ller han sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let:&nbsp;<em>Hvor l\u00e6nge er det siden, du har snakket fortroligt med et andet menneske? <\/em>\u201dHar man ingen at tale fortroligt med, k\u00f8rer ens tanker i ring. Man skal have input fra andre, s\u00e5 man kommer til at t\u00e6nke p\u00e5 nye m\u00e5der. Har man en fortrolig, bliver det lettere at h\u00e5ndtere det sv\u00e6re. Hvis man lider afsavn, fordi ingen ser, hvordan man har det, eller man ikke synes, man betyder noget for andre, s\u00e5 er det ofte en indikator p\u00e5 psykisk og fysisk mistrivsel.&nbsp; M\u00e6nd har sv\u00e6rt ved at opfatte problemer som psykiske. For mange er det simpelthen et ukendt land at tale om psyken,\u201d siger Svend Aage Madsen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At ops\u00f8ge hj\u00e6lp ligger ikke som m\u00e6nds yndlingsm\u00e5de at fikse en situation p\u00e5, selvom det er sv\u00e6rt at g\u00f8re noget p\u00e5 egen h\u00e5nd. At g\u00f8re noget i f\u00e6llesskab er noget andet. M\u00e6nd vil typisk gerne lave noget sammen. Det kan man ogs\u00e5 g\u00f8re ombord p\u00e5 et skib, mens man f\u00e5r n\u00e6vnt noget, man er optaget af, selv om de fleste m\u00e6nd ikke er vant til at dele f\u00f8lelser overhovedet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sammen<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201dFor mange m\u00e6nd har det aldrig v\u00e6ret produktivt at m\u00e6rke efter, hvordan de har det i de funktioner m\u00e6nd har haft i hele vores civilisation. Det g\u00f8r kvinder, for de er p\u00e5 hjemmebane, n\u00e5r det handler om relationer, fordi de har taget sig af familien. De vil ops\u00f8ge relationer, n\u00e5r det er sv\u00e6rt. Mange m\u00e6nd vil bare v\u00e6re i fred, og det er ikke sundt for dem,\u201d siger han.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Venner kommer i mange skikkelser, mens n\u00e6re relationer n\u00e6rmest s\u00e6ttes p\u00e5 formel: \u201dDet er nogle, der betyder noget for \u00e9n, og som man betyder noget for. \u00c9n, man vil forholde sig til, hvordan har det, og som vil g\u00f8re det samme for \u00e9n. \u00c9n, man kan ops\u00f8ge, n\u00e5r man kommer i krise, eller n\u00e5r man er ulykkelig over noget,\u201d siger Svend Aage Madsen.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Typisk kan man sige, at m\u00e6nds f\u00f8lelsesm\u00e6ssige og fysiske sundhed er afh\u00e6ngig af en partner. N\u00e6sten 70 procent af m\u00e6nd mener, at det er afg\u00f8rende at have en partner.&nbsp;For mennesker, der ikke har n\u00e6re relationer, kommer ogs\u00e5 ofte for sent til l\u00e6gen og har st\u00f8rre d\u00f8delighed i forhold til forskellige sygdomme.&nbsp;Unders\u00f8gelser viser, at m\u00e6nd lever syv \u00e5r kortere, hvis de ikke er i et parforhold. For kvinder er det tre \u00e5r. Mister manden sin partner derhjemme, fx skilsmisse, s\u00e5 smutter den mest n\u00e6re relation, han har.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>G\u00f8r noget<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u00e5ledes oplever en stor gruppe m\u00e6nd ensomhed, u\u00f8nsket singleliv og barnl\u00f8shed, mangel p\u00e5 muligheder for at f\u00f8lge med p\u00e5 jobbet og d\u00e5rligt fysisk helbred, hvilket ogs\u00e5 sv\u00e6kker den mentale trivsel. Alt sammen noget der p\u00e5virker hverdagen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Vi ved, at det ikke at have n\u00e6re relationer er den st\u00f8rste s\u00e5rbarhedsfaktor, man har over for psykiske vanskeligheder og mistrivsel. M\u00e6nd skal arbejde for at s\u00e6tte ord p\u00e5, selv om en del af dem siger, at f\u00f8lelser er ikke noget vi taler om, det er bare noget, vi er udstyret med.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Konkret opretter Forum for M\u00e6nds Sundhed f\u00e6llesskaber, kaldet \u2019M\u00e6nds M\u00f8desteder\u2019 rundt omkring i Danmark. De handler ikke om at snakke om problemer. De handler om at g\u00f8re noget sammen, relationer og p\u00e5 sigt n\u00e6re fortrolige venskaber.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201dVi ved, at skaber vi den type f\u00e6llesskaber, s\u00e5 myldrer m\u00e6ndene frem, for det er relations opbyggende at lave noget sammen. Det kan man nok ogs\u00e5 g\u00f8re ombord p\u00e5 et skib.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"border-radius:25px\" class=\"wp-block-list has-ast-global-color-4-color has-ast-global-color-1-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-722063f6d7b7f96c611bfc57437e21e7\">\n<li>Tag initiativ til en snak.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Lyt og giv plads til, at den anden ikke siger noget efter de f\u00f8rste ord. Afbryd ikke t\u00e6nksomheden ved at tale videre. Giv den anden ro til at tale p\u00e5 ny.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Sp\u00f8rg aldrig en mand: Hvordan f\u00f8ler du? Hvordan har du det? F\u00f8ler du dig ensom?<br>I stedet for: Har du nogen at betro dig til? Hvordan vil du vurdere din psykiske trivsel?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Det er bedre at sp\u00f8rge end slet ikke at sp\u00f8rge.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Lav noget sammen ombord i fritiden.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Godt arbejdsmilj\u00f8 er ogs\u00e5 mental sundhed. Som kollega spiller du en stor rolle.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Hvis m\u00e6nd har en d\u00e5rlig adf\u00e6rd, har de haft det skidt l\u00e6nge.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tag godt imod din kollega, hvis han har v\u00e6ret nede med flaget, og nu er tilbage.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most women are able to talk about how they feel. And they often have more people to confide in because they have acquired many social skills. Men have a harder time putting difficult things into words. 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